It shows no understanding of the characters, nor the nature of temptation. No joke. I agree that she deliberately tempted him, and that it likely contributed to his actions at the falls of Rauros. I disagree that her intentions were in any way evil and I don't think we can know whether Boromir would have tried to take the ring even if he'd never met her. Perhaps all the choices at Rauros were influenced by her crucible: Frodo mistrusting the rest of the party, but Sam knowing in his heart he is true, and perhaps Aragorn, Legolas, and Gimli doubting their resistance of the ring.
Show 10 more comments. Daniel Roseman Daniel Roseman The perfect quote! Perhaps also "'I should have said that she was Why would she do that? Well, because she is petty I will diminish, and go into the West, and remain Galadriel Not only would it be completely out of character for Galadriel, but there are no texts that support this. In fact, Gandalf says "[she] told me that [Boromir] was in peril" when he first meets Aragorn as the White Wizard.
She finally realizes that her clinging to middle earth in a misguided attempt at ordering her own realm and the pride which held her to that ideal was wrong and it is time for her to let go.
The whole mythology is centered on The Fall through the corruptive desire to order and control. I mean, even Sauron was "less evil for having served another. I read the books but can't recall the details, but in the movies Boromir said Galadriel had offered him "hope", but that he couldn't see it. Boromir is secretly despairing for his people, and doesn't believe Galadriel had anything to offer to help save them. He saw the Ring as the only way to save them, and thus fell to the Ring's temptation, not Galadriel's.
Show 7 more comments. Movie-based answer I haven't read the book but when the Fellowship enter the Lothlorien and come up to meet Celeborn and Galadriel, she enters Borormir's mind, making him realize that his beloved people are in great danger. TimSparrow KazerKrin KazerKrin 2 2 bronze badges. The book is quite different, especially in Faramir's reaction to having the Ring within his reach. The movie did have a somewhat tense scene on the slopes of Caradhras where Boromir almost had the ring, and there are likely statements by Boromir during the council to imply a pre-Galadriel interest in the ring.
The book is pretty, pretty, pretty good — ognockocaten. You should give the book a chance. Or, at least, sample the mostly excellent BBC audio dramatization in 13 episodes. Galadriel's characterization in the movies, while not bad, is way less subtle than in the book. The episode of The Mirror of Galadriel is both better and more powerful than the pretty hamfisted scene from the movie.
He is definitely a loyal member of the Fellowship and he loves his home in Gondor. And he's always willing to lend a hand to help out the other guys.
But at the same time, he seems to be kind of a jerk. When Boromir sails down the River Anduin with the Fellowship, he appears distracted and all too interested in Frodo. And things definitely come to a head at Amon Hen, when Boromir follows Frodo into the woods and tries to take the Ring from him. He feels bad about it right after, and he rushes to tell Aragorn that Frodo has disappeared, but the damage has been done. We know from Boromir's first appearance at the Council of Elrond what his flaws are.
He comes to tell the Council of a strange dream that his brother, Faramir, has been having for ages. It starts out with a storm, and then a voice cries out:. Seek for the Sword that was broken: In Imlandris it dwells; There shall be counsels taken Stronger than Morgul-spells. No, we do not know one another, and that was the problem as you see, for how could he compare himself with I? An insult to my intelligence, that I did not take lightly, but I was polite and thanked him for the welcome.
Stop with the insults. Last edited by a moderator: Aug 29, Welcome "Beyond Wisdom". I hope your Tolkien Lore matches your arrogance which would then no longer be arrogance, but fair comment , and that you will sign up for some debates.
DurinLongBeard Adar en Naugrim. My dear Lord, who do you think you are Beyond Wisdom? I don't think you understand, this a forum about Tolkien 's Works. No one cares about how smart you are. BC was saying that when he came to this forum, he would say things just like you did, except he wasn't a punk. I have been here a while, though I don't post often.
How would you know how smart BC is? An insult to HIS intelligence, if i might go so far. I am shocked at how annoying your cocky behavior is. I think you need to get knocked off your high horse. Yay Gollum does the same sort of thing, often posting in Gollum style and always voting in favour of Gollum in any polls.
Arvedui Stargazer. Stop the rude behaviour, all of you. If one person acts against the rules of TTF, it does not allow anyone to react in the same manner, OK?
Eledhwen brought up a couple of very good questions. Stick to them, and refrain from any personal attacks, please. Last edited: Aug 30, Lantarion no house. Yes Eledhwen that last post was absolutely unacceptable, there are multiple points on the way!! You are most welcome to the forum, Beyond Wisdom, as are your opinions; but your snideness and rudeness are not, as I'm sure you realize now.
Have fun! I agree completely with Beyonf Wisdom, though, and can think of very little to add. My thoughts exactly, especially about Men and power.
This came up in another thread and I posted that I felt Galadriel 's "temptation" worked as a mirror. She gazed into the hearts of those in the quest, saw with her heart what they wanted, and they saw what she saw, which is why some of them were ashamed and some were not.
In other words, I think Boromir saw for the first time, quite undeniably, that he wanted the Ring. I think he'd probably been denying to himself that he did until this point.
I agree with Sam in that: it's my opinion that in Lorien he first saw clearly what I guessed sooner: what he wanted. From the moment he first saw it he wanted the Enemy's Ring! Thats basically what the yelling was about the part where she turns all green. As for why shes so strong, Galadriel has a lot going for her.
From wikipedia: …he admits that he desires a single strand of her golden hair, so that he might treasure it and preserve it as an heirloom of his house. Tolkien made it very clear in his story that Gimli was enchanted not literally by Galadriel. He thought she was the fairest creature in Middle Earth. Gandalf and Galadriel never get together in the books.
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